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y much, brooke. let's continue on here. you're watching cnn, i'm brooke baldwin. just in another american accused of trying to join isis. this time this is a 30-year-old philadelphia woman charged with attempting to provide material support to a terrorist organization. federal prosecutors say she communicated with an isis fighter in syria who asked her if she would like to be a martyr. her response was this. she said according to the feds that would be amazing. a girl can only wish. jason carroll is with me with more. we were just talking yesterday about these two young women, 28 and 31 who were inspired to wage jihad and now this won. >> now we have another one, her name is keonna thomas she is from philadelphia. she is accused according to this new criminal complaint. it seems like all we're doing lately is reading criminal complaints. she attempted to travel
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overseas quote, in order to join fight with and martyr herself in behalf of isil. according to federal agents as far back as 2013 she started tweeting things about jihad or twitter. one of the tweets that we have here pretty much says it all. quote, if we truly knew the realities, we would all be rushing to join our brothers in the front lines to pray allah. accept us as uheda, that means martyrs. that is one of the things she tweeted way back in 2013. she was on their radar. they looked at her travel plans. in february she got her passport. last month she got her visa to travel to turkey. then bought a ticket to travel to barcelona, then they moved in and made their arrest. this is a young woman definitely in a lot of trouble. if convicted, she faces up to 15 years in prison again for allegedly trying to provide material support for a terrorist
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organization. unbelievable. >> and we know counterterrorism officials, after talking to you, i had buck sexton on saying sloppy about those women yesterday. this is how you're on fbi's radar. >> i think a lot of people from the outside are saying some of these people aren't very smart. you know they're communicating online they're tweeting things out, doing things seemingly that you would think someone would not wanting to do. >> right. >> but then you also have to think about something else. in order to carry off some sort of an attack you don't have to be brilliant. so it doesn't take much. so i think what you're seeing is federal authorities moving in on some of these people in the early stages before it gets to something more serious. >> jason carroll, thank you very much. >> you bet. now to this. new information here in the downing of germanwings flight 9525 and what may just be really the final piece of the puzzle and what investigators are now calling a case of premeditated
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murder. it comes from this charred black box, this mangled black box. initial tests on this flight data recorder so that co-pilot andreas lubitz did not just set the plane to fly automatically into the mountains, he actually sped it up during the sdengt. mary is with me now. mary why speed up a plane when it was already going down toward the mountain? >> well the only thing i can think of is that there is an eerie similarity to what was going on on united flight 93 on september 11th 2001. passengers were using the food cart as a battering ram and the passengers did the same thing. we have the cockpit voice recorder so my guess is the banging on the door and the cart or whatever metallic instrument that the pilot in command had trying to get through the door made him wanting to speed it up
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on per chance that he could get through the door. he couldn't have. once the doors were reinforced after september 11th 2001 those doors are pretty secure. >> and all the while, while this is happening in that cockpit, this co-pilot is breathing normally according to that cockpit voice recorder. what about this condition of the black box? we just showed the picture here of the second one they just founding found. are you surprised? you were always confident they would finding it but are you surprised they were able to get information off of this burnt-out piece of machinery? >> no. i've worked so many crash cases where there's been a terrible inferno and in almost every case were able to get data off the black box and cockpit voice recording. they're really tough. while the outside is charred and bent and mangled, they just have to get those data chips and then they have literally 500 different kinds of data. it looks like -- when you printing it out, it looks like
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an ekg but then you have to have time to decipher it. >> so on this kind of ekg, this is how they determine, as we were just discussing this co-pilot was readjusting the auto pilot to speed up as it was going down but we also heard yesterday that he had been slowing down the speed of this aircraft to prevent alarms from going off. if you're going to commit mass murder and take the lives of 149 people why would one worry about alarms going off? >> well i don't think that -- i can't imagine why one would, but some of the alarms of course might have alarms concerning the actual integrity of the aircraft. maybe he did not know how tough this plane was, and if they had overspeed warnings that the plane wouldn't fall apart that this plane could probably take it. he wasn't anywhere close to an overspeed. >> what does that mean overspeed override. would the aircraft realize
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something was going awry and correct itself? >> the airbus will. it will try to save itself, to tell you the truth. fly by wire is pretty good. while this is an older plane appeared if it was on auto pilot and he was on overspeed, it might have taken action to try to save itself. it has different modes that the plane will try to do. but the recording of him breathing and when they put that on with the speeding up of the speed of the aircraft it certainly will painting a very chilling picture. >> with your investigation forensics had on and we know that these recovery crews are sifting through the remains and working on the dna matching and id'ing individuals, we know he had suffered depression perhaps had drug injections. will they be able to if they finding his remains determine if he had drugs in his system that
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day? >> most likely not. you need to get blood, bodily fluids or you can sometimes take it from liver and other organs. but if they just have skin and things like that probably not. but from an organ, from blood, that's where they'll be able to do it. so i wouldn't suspect that they will be able to do it on him, although that kind of data would be very, very helpful for the investigators. >> mary thank you. >> thank you. next now that the u.s. and iran have agreed to this tentative nuclear deal what happens if congress says no? we'll talk to jake tapper our chief washington correspondent, for that ahead. also a turn of events for a pizza shop in indiana. the owners here face crazy huge backlash after saying they would not cater a same-sex wedding. now they have hundreds of thousands of dollars in donations. we'll talk about that. what's next for them. and flower shop owners who
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the tale of two countries over the tentative nuclear deal with iran. iran says it's ready to quote unquote, cooperate with the world. israel is calling the proposal a threat to its security. here's a look at the terms hailed by president obama has historic. iran agrees to eliminate two-thirds of its centrifuges, reduce its stockpile of enriched uranium. in exchange the west will lift the sanctions that have crippled iran's economy. let's go to our chief washington correspondent, mr. jake tapper. let's take this back here to the united states. we heard the president yesterday saying this is a good deal. how does he sell that to congress? >> well you heard some of it yet with his argument basically that in his view the choices are this deal the status quo under which iran has created this nuclear program or war. now, obviously a lot of people
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think that those are not the three options, there are other options, including continuing with even tougher sanctions and demanding a better deal. but in the president's argument he's going to say these are the three options. who wants to go to war, who wants the status quo? not me. then this deal is the best option. >> let's move to hillary clinton. news in today she signed -- her camp signed a lease for this big building maybe campaign headquarters in brooklyn. my thought is either she wants a better view of the east river or this woman is running for president. >> this woman is running for president. it's been very very clear for months and months and months she is running. there is even a tentative date being discussed. i know theoretically no one has declared a presidential candidate until they come out and say i am a presidential candidate, but clearly she is running for president, as are jeb bush and marco rubio and
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rand paul and ted cruz obviously the only one that's formally declared so far. yes, she is running for president. i don't think we have to couch that anymore, do we? >> okay no more couching. >> well when you start leasing office space, there's only one reason she could be leasing the office space. you know she's not opening up a co-op. >> right. i'm with you, tapper i'm with you. finally, before i let you go i understand you have a pretty special interview coming up. >> in honor of good friday and easter and this holy weekend, we have an interview with mark burnett, who is obviously a big producer of all sorts of reality television but also with roma downey, they did the bible mini series was such a huge hit on cable and also in theaters. this time they actually managed to convince a major american network, nbc, to run their next mini series which is a.d. and this -- in a way it's interesting coming off all these
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stories about the religious freedom restoration act, brooke because there you had chambers of commerce pushing the religious community saying we don't like this, it's not good for business. here you have big business working their way. they saw the huge demand for the bible mini series and now nbc, although they didn't do it last time now they're on board because there is this huge audience. >> all right, jake tapper. we'll look for it. many other things happening i'm sure at 4:00 eastern with "the lead." thank you very much, my friend. >> thanks brooke. next here on this show a pizza shop in indiana definitely making some headlines because its owners said they would not cater a gay wedding. a number of people outraged here. they have even been getting death threats. but others opened their wallets. nld and if you check this go fund me page it is closing in on the
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$700,000 mark. also we are seeing some of the first images out of kenya after that massacre at the university. we'll tell some of the stories of the survivors and show you these just awful pictures here. such an important story to tell today. we'll be right back. shopping online... ...is as easy as it gets. wouldn't it be great if hiring plumbers carpenters and even piano tuners... were just as simple? thanks to angie's list now it is. start shopping online... ...from a list of top rated providers. visit angieslist.com today.
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one week after signing that controversial religious freedom law sparked a national backlash indiana governor mike pence has signed a fix to that law and it ensures the measure cannot be used to discriminate against gays and lesbians. meanwhile the governor of arkansas also signing an amended version of his state's religious freedom bill after lawmakers changed it to mirror federal law. you know what, the controversy isn't over. many other states are or are considering similar religious freedom bills. case in point the state of
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georgia. it died at midnight when lawmakers wrapped up their session, but cnn's gary tuchman spoke to a number of georgia business owners who said law or no law, they will not serve gay customers. >> reporter: head out to rural jeff davis county georgia, and you don't have to look hard to find supporters of the state's religious freedom restoration act and they aren't afraid to say why. >> if you had gay customers come in and they say we want you to come to our commitment ceremony. would you do it? >> no i couldn't. >> reporter: jennifer williams is an associating at this flower shop a southern baptist who said she regards the bible as the rule book for her life. she doesn't believe refusing service to a gay couple is discrimination. >> you talk about the bible and how important it is. the bible talks an awful lot about love and loving your fellow man. >> it doesn't mean i love them any less because i pray for them. >> but if you don't serve them
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it's not like -- >> it's not that i hate them. i don't hate them. >> but you're not loving them if you don't want to serve them right? >> yeah you can still love someone. i mean even though you don't serve them. >> reporter: at another flower shop just down the street the exact same opinions from the florist and her son, who is studying to be a southern baptist pastor. >> i would respectfully tell them that i'm sorry, that i just don't want to do it because of my beliefs. >> but right now while georgia is considering a law to make that legal for you to do that it's not and you can get in trouble for doing that. >> i understand that. >> so you would be willing to take that risk? >> he died on the cross for me so i would be willing to do that for him. >> the judge of the universe i don't care no matter what anybody else says. >> you would not bring your flowers to a gay commitment ceremony? >> no. >> reporter: there are five florists we found in this area. the employees of three of them
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dongt want to appear on camera but they all told us the same thing. they want this law to pass in georgia. they want the right to turn away business from gay people. their sentiments are, of course very offensive to many. a demonstration taking place at the georgia capitol this week. >> we now see this bill is very clearly a vehicle to be used to discriminate against the gay and transgender community. >> reporter: and although the flower shop employees we spoke to don't like to use the word discriminate, they do see the bill as a vehicle to deny service to gay people. >> the 10 commandments says you can't commit adultery you need to honor your father and mother. if someone didn't honor their parents or commit adultery would you serve them? >> yes. >> why would you serve them but not serve someone who was gay? >> it's just a different kind of sin to me and i just don't believe in it. >> reporter: and these flower shops, they are happy to do business with you. but not so much if you tell them
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you're gay. gary tuchman, cnn, jeff davis county georgia. >> like those florists in georgia, there is an indiana pizza shop that also cites its religious beliefs as reasons for why they would not provide services for a same-sex ceremony. memories pizza is now in the center of the debate after this reporter ask the owner of this pizza shop a hypothetical question and got this answer. >> if a gay couple was to come in like say we wanted -- they wanted us to provide them pizzas for a wedding, we would have to say no. >> that family-run restaurant says it's since had to close its doors because of death threats but supporters are stepping in. this online donations page has raised more than $700,000 in just a day and the donations continue in. lawrence jones is one of those behind the fund-raiser, he's a contributor on blaze tv. lawrence welcome.
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>> thanks. thanks for having me. >> so i know since this whole story happened this pizza shop has been receiving death threats so they closed. are they still closed? what's the status? >> yeah currently they are closed but they have been receiving death threats from people saying that they shouldn't be discriminating against gays which they're not. and they are seeking to destroy this family. not just that family but people from our network. >> i know there was a saying tolerance except when it suits you. on this issue you can't have tolerance and acceptance but yet threaten someone's life. >> that's right. we have members of the gay community that are supporting -- look this is not an anti-gay agenda. this is about freedom and showing love to our gay brothers and sisters as well. this go fund me was to support freedom and that is our message. we want to support freedom, religious freedom. we believe that everybody has
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that right, especially private businesses. >> what are you -- what does this pizza shop plan to do with the now above $700,000 in donations? i have to imagine that is more that they would make in five years? i don't know. >> well you know what one of the things that our show really wanted to do is make sure they could handle some debt as well as repair the shop do whatever they needed to do. there's been some graffiti and things like that as well as if they needed to do some repairs or take care of some personal things ever since this happened. we also decided to set them up with a financial advisor who also decided to donate their service. so they will be flying out monday to help that family with those funds. but i want to be clear that the blaze as well as the dana show is not getting any of those funds. this is all going to the family. >> and so just so we're clear, after all this has happened and you say this is about religious freedom and it's not anti-gay
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again, the question if it were hypothetically posed to these people if somebody wanted a bunch of pizzas at a same-sex wedding, their response would be? >> no. but the thing is clear is this family said if a gay person wanted to come in and eat pizza in that shop that they would serve gays. they were just against serving at a gay wedding as far as catering to them which is totally different. >> lawrence jones. thank you. >> thanks, brooke. next the harrowing stories from survivors of that massacre at one university. one woman covered herself in blood and pretended to be dead. we will take you live to kenya, next.
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past the bottom of the hour you're watching cnn, i'm brooke baldwin. we have to tell you this story out of kenya here the disturbing new development and pictures coming out of that country following the bloody terror siege at a university campus. first today during the grisly search and recovery effort our cnn crews witnessed a man hiding under a bed. he wasn't a student. he was taken into custody and is actually being treated as a suspect. according to sources, three students were found alive today, including a young woman hiding under a pile of bodies. and now to some of these pictures of this campus. you can see obviously broken glass, damaged buildings. there are bullet holes in some of these walls and the personal belongings of the students. witnesses tell horrifying stories of gunmen storming this campus setting off these explosions and just opening fire. gunmen killed 147 people before they were ultimately killed. cnn's david mckenzie is in
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garissa, kenya. i would love to begin with these stories of survival. the idea of someone hiding under bodies survive. >> reporter: that's right, brooke it's really extraordinary. i spoke to one woman, helen is her name. she moved away from the gunfire as it happened hit in a wardrobe for an hour. she said the gunmen were walking around without shoes, so that no one could tell where they were but they gathered them in a common area on the ground floor. after giving them a religious sermon they summarily executed one by one. first the men and then the women. when they got to her turn she managed to somehow, you know fake her death by pulling blood over herself from her friend who was lying next to herself. she lay there, she said for ten hours before the kenyan defense force had cleared the area and brought them out. just one of the survivors i
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spoke to today, certainly horrifying and miraculous stories coming out, brooke. >> horrifying absolutely grisly scene there on campus. what more david, do you know about these attackers? >> reporter: well at least two, maybe three suspects were detained at the scene today who had been hiding out. still, it's a bit unclear yet whether they were connected directly with this attack. it seems that four gunmen were killed on the scene. it appears to be a coordinated attack. also what i found interesting is that the survivors i spoke to brooke said that the men were speaking swahili, the kenyan national language not somali which suggests they had been spending at least a significant amount of time in this country. prior reporting that we've done suggests many kenyan somalis have been recruited to al shabab. they are looking for a chief suspect, they put a bounty on his head that they say was the
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mastermind of these attacks. many questions being asked of how they managed to gain access to the university and why it took so long to stop this carnage. they said that in one case they had scores of bodies in just one room that they were pulling out piece by piece, bit by bit in terms of the bodies placing the remains in trucks which they then took to the air strip. we witnessed those trucks. took to the air strip and then flying it to the national morgue in nairobi. it's almost too hard to contemplate. some people don't know yet whether their loved ones are even alive or dead. brooke. >> david mckenzie, thank you. coming up next the response to chris rock's recent tweets about getting pulled over by police. actor isaiah washington from "grey's anatomy" talked to my colleague, don lemon, and he said basically chris rock needs to adapt. what does that mean? what did don think about that? our conversation coming up. plus a 17-year-old is getting a lot of attention for
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her letter to duke university. here's the thing, duke university sent her a rejection letter. you know what she did in response? she sent them a rejection to their rejection. we'll talk to her, live ahead. the bed reacts to your body. it hugs you. it's really cool to the touch. this zips off so i can wash it-yes, please. (vo) visit your local retailer and feel the tempur-pedic difference for yourself.
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driving while black. something chris rock would say he's been guilty of. the african-american community says police have stopped him three times in the last seven weeks all documented with these selfies posted on twitter online. one caption reading "stopped by the cops again, wish me luck." in response this response from tv actor isaiah washington urging him to #adapt perhaps to avoid racial profiling. the tweet reads i sold my mercedes and brought three priuses because i got tired of getting pulled over by police. #adapt. washington defended his response
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on cnn tonight. here is part of don lemon's interview with that actor. >> obviously they're not looking for chris rock. obviously he hasn't broken any laws and what you drive shouldn't matter particularly if you're an african-american man. but if you are at war, which we all know that we are, there is a sent sentiment in the air that is highly toxic and highly negative. what i was doing by that tweet is doing exactly what i wanted to do is excite a conversation. that if we're looking at this term black and we're looking at this term driving while black, maybe we need to really look at the term black itself. >> i've got don lemon with me. i just really wanted to have you on to talk about your interview with isaiah washington in the wake of these tweets from chris rock and then his tweet saying hey, i turned in my $90,000 mercedes for three priuses, #adapt. so you had him on first, to explain what he meant because he faced a huge firestorm online. what did he tell you? >> everyone thought that he was
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talking about -- everyone felt that he was putting the onus on i guess, black drivers or himself to change behavior. >> saying we need to adapt. >> we need to adapt. what he said was, and this is my understanding of it is he said we're in a war. and when you're in a war, you have to do anything to survive. and part of that is adapting to what's going on by trying to figure out, i guess, how to change it and what ways you can change it. >> so how was he explaining by changing cars that would help him adapt? >> i kept pressing him on that and he really didn't say. what he did tell me is when he had a -- he had a g-500, a $90,000 car and he said he would get pulled overall the time. then he said finally he got sick of it. he sold it bought the priuses, that was five years ago. he has not been pulled over since, he says. >> really. okay. >> but he also said they must be looking for something if he's getting pulled over in the same place if chris rock is getting pulled over in the same place.
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he should go to his local police department and figure out what they're looking for and meet them and tell them and those kinds of things. i don't know if he means -- i don't know if chris should buy a different car, i don't know. >> you took issue with all this? >> well because i feel like -- the assumption and i hate to assume things. you don't want to take people out of context or assume something they don't mean. >> right. >> he felt -- it felt to me that he was putting the responsibility on the victim on the person who was possibly and we don't know why chris rock was pulled over who is possibly being pulled over up fairly by police or targeted by police and even himself who he says -- he says that he was unfairly targeted by police. is it up for him or the person who is being targeted to change their behavior? >> what do you think? >> no! >> no you don't think that. >> i understand a bit about what he says about when you're in a war you have to change. but for me that means if the police do stop you you comply you don't fight because you want to stay alive, right?
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why should i have to take the extra step or extra responsibility to change what i drive? i'm an american citizen. that part of it i don't get. or to go down to the police station and talk to someone. i'm not sure. you know it's a good idea for everyone to know police in their area, right? but why would you have to -- why does anyone have to do that. do you have to do that? no. >> no i don't think so. >> and wouldn't you sort of take offense -- >> of course i would. of course i would. back just with the chris rock the selfies being pulled over. >> three times, seven weeks. >> has he ever explained why he was taking the selfies, why he was being pulled over? have we heard any more from him? >> not that i know of. as of this conversation as we're talking about it i have not heard of it. i know he has spoken out to "new york" magazine and i think maybe a "new york times" article but has spoken out about racism about police you know brutality or you know excessive force with police officers it's not going away it's a real issue.
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so it leaves one to assume if he's taking selfies about being pulled over and he says wish me luck that he's afraid. and also this is very important, seinfeld had this series i think it was getting coffee in cars or something with comedians, comedians getting coffee in cars. they were pulled over and they have this conversation. and chris rock said you know i feel safe that you're here. if you weren't here i would be really scared. >> did he give up? >> no he got him. >> here's the crazy thing. if you weren't here, i'd be scared. i'm famous. >> well let's not -- >> go black. >> well we'd love to talk to chris rock about all this. chris rock come on cnn, that would be a great conversation. >> we've invited him, everyone has invited him. >> don lemon, thank you very much host of "cnn tonight," appreciate it. >> thank you, brooke. >> thank you. ah college.
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a college-boungdd 17-year-old has turned into a viral sensation after writing a scathing letter to duke university. her college admission was rejected but instead she sent duke a rejection letter of her own and posted it online for everyone to see. she joins me now. shivon i need to put this out there. i went to the other institution in north carolina in chapel hill which i finding to be a tad better so i'm going to attempt to go into this with objective eyes just throwing that out there. nice to see you, welcome to the show. >> thank you. it's good to be here. >> no one likes rejection, i know including you. you wrote this rejection letter to duke. it's short. will you read it for me? >> yes, i will. it says dear duke university admissions thank you for your rejection letter of march 26 2015. after careful consideration, i regret to inform you that i am unable to accept your refusal to offer me admission into the fall 2015 freshman class at duke. this year i have been fortunate enough to receive rejection
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letters from the best and brightest universities in the country. with the pool of letters diverse and accomplished i was unable to accept reject letters i would have several years ago. despite duke's outstanding success in rejecting previous applicants you simply did not meet my qualifications. therefore, i will be attending duke university's 2015 freshman class. i look forward to seeing you then. >> why do you think you were duke material? >> apparently i wasn't. i don't know i really liked what -- you know what they stood for, a lot of the research that i'm really interested in. so that's what drew me there. >> why -- how did you even come up with this idea? why take the time to write a rejection letter to the rejection? >> well i saw all my friends and all my peer you know, we stress over the applications we wait longingly for the answer and then when we get them and we're rejected i've seen students cry over it before. and so i was like you know what what if they didn't have
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the last say. what if students got to decide instead. so i just gave them a taste of their own medicine. >> i mean i can still remember i'm 35 now, this was a little while ago, but the heart palpatations and the long walk to the mailbox to see if you were going to get the big envelope versus the small one. >> i know. >> is there anything you wish looking back you know that you had told duke that had you had somebody from duke admissions standing in front of you, what would you have told him or her? >> i would say i wish i didn't make so many typos in the letter i sent you. >> do you know did you get any acceptance letter? where are you going to school? >> oh i'm going to the university of south carolina. >> university of south carolina. did you write an acceptance to their acceptance? >> i did not. no i haven't. >> i think you should get on that. congratulations. enjoy college. >> thank you. >> it's a good time. thank you very much. >> thank you. coming up next here venice
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is known for its beautiful canals a floating city. now it may be a sinking city. bill weir went there to find out how much danger venice italy, is in. he'll join me next. you can call me shallow... but, i have a wandering eye. i mean, come on. national gives me the control to choose any car in the aisle i want. i could choose you... or i could choose her if i like her more. and i do. oh, the silent treatment. real mature. so you wanna get out of here? go national. go like a pro.
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it's a subaru. a professional musician is bringing his passion for music to kids in miami, keeping them away from violence and encouraging them to choose guitars over guns. here is cnn hero chad bernstein. >> as a professional musician the disappearance of music in schools concerns me because i would be lost without music. >> guitar over guns will be meeting today. please be on time and ready to rock. >> our program offers free after school programming to at-risk middle schoolers. music is the most important tool we have in reaching these kids. >> guys if we can please finish up with the grades and go to the instruments. >> in the classroom we split the program up in 30-minute chunks
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mentoring exercise instrument instruction and ensemble experience. i'm a professional musician. we build relationships. we get to know their families and what their lives are like at home. a lot of times, these kids only see to the end of their block. we like to give them exposure to the rest of the world. >> over there is where we will be recording vocals. >> the best part about our program is watching these kids really transform. >> before the program i really wouldn't think i would be in a studio. but now i could do medicine i could do music, i could probably even be like a teacher. >> when i see a kid have their moment it makes you realize that we are doing work that matters. >> each week we honor a new cnn hero. we would love for you to go to our website and nominate someone you know someone you respect. cnn heroes.com. venice italy is a beautiful
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place known for its canals and connection to the sea but what also makes the city so special could also become its demise. sunday night, cnn's bill weir makes a splash on this week's wonder list. >> coming in winter means venice is gloomier but an empty st. marks square makes a great vantage to watch her other famous phenomenon which begins with that siren. it is the sound of an approaching high water propelled by moon and wind. a full moon brings higher tides and when the winds are blowing up the back of the italian boot adriatic sea water comes rushing through the three inlets of the lagoon. it's predicted so three hours before the liquid lifts comes
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that haunting alarm. one tone means the water will reach 110 centimeters above normal two tones, 120 and so on. today it will top 130, four feet three inches above normal. higher parts of the city will stay dry but here in san marco, 130 is just high enough to render your wellies worthless. >> i don't know why i bothered to put on the boots. oh that's cold! >> you're making me cold just looking at you. what was that like? >> it was really amazing. i had been there before went there my first anniversary, fell in love with the city. but then heard so many stories about people saying there's too much water, too many people so we had to go back and see what was happening. that phenomenon knee-high in st. marks, that happened about 400 times in the 1920s or '30s, that decade in the '90s it's 2400 times. new records are set every year.
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there's this multi-billion dollar plan to save venice gates, one of a kind flood protection system that ended up spiraling into this opera of scandal and greed. the mayor was arrested as part of this whole -- so it's an amazing yarn when it comes to understanding a world with a lot more people, lot more water. >> take the three shot. as i'm listening to you, bill weir we have here we go a little weir sitting in our midst. this is olivia. she's 11. you brought her in to work. we thought let's have her on because i love the whole premise of your show is you are going to all these places around the world that are disappearing because little olivia here in her lifetime may never see this stuff. >> the places we love as we love them today, right? i want her to go to venice on her first anniversary. she's going to turn my age in 2050. you hope that at that point it won't have sunk into the place
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where you really can't visit and you hope they have figured out a visitors system where the soul of that city isn't loved to death. it's an interesting question, the choices we have to make. >> has your dad, you understand why he's going all these places. obviously you are looking at that talking to your dad as we were watching the piece about all the water. all these places, where do you want to go? >> well venice -- >> venice is up there. we were going to go in season one. it just didn't work out. >> yeah. we were going to go to africa. >> africa. yeah. and look at elephants and chimpanzees and stuff because who knows how many how long those guys will be around. maybe, fingers crossed, we will get a chance to go maybe season two. >> yeah. i want to go. >> okay. >> does he ever take you around the world yet? no? i see we were joking in the
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commercial break you have been all the way to coney island. i have a feeling you have been some other cool places. >> yeah i guess, but not like on a business -- >> not a serious business trip. >> i'm actually going to get away from you for a little while. it's really fun when i come home. absence makes the heart grow fonder. >> yeah. >> in the final 60 seconds, i really think this is so special and i'm sure you are so mindful of your daughter when you are away. every single place you leave, is there a sense of sadness that she really may not get to check it out? >> i felt little glimpses of hope everywhere we went but if you look at the trend lines, you've got to worry. that's sort of the intent of the series is we want parents out there who have little grommets like this to fall in love with these places again and realize if we don't pay attention they could slip out of our grasp in their current form. what adjustments do we have to make what sacrifices do we have to make to preserve our past and beautiful places like venice and
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still go into the future with so many more people joining us on this planet. >> i just went to africa for the first time in my life and i'm 35. i have a feeling you will see the elephants a lot earlier than i did. so nice to meet you. thank you so much. thank you, bill. you can watch the wonder list sunday night 10:00 eastern right here on cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. thank you for being with me. "the lead" with jake tapper starts now. the pending iran deal hope and fear and now, the hard sell. i'm jake tapper. this is "the lead." the world lead. one day after world powers announce a historic framework aimed at stopping iran from developing a nuclear weapon president obama is tasked with selling the deal not only to israeli and arab leaders who seem to oppose it but to his fellow americans and a skeptical congress. we will talk to one of the negotiators from the obama cabinet and also with the deal's most vociferous critic in the senate. also in world news the plane was obliterated and now we know that the